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		<title>By: &#187; Word Challenge: Sorrow - Crazy Mokes</title>
		<link>http://www.crazymokes.com/2006/02/word-challenge-war-and-hate/comment-page-1/#comment-48</link>
		<dc:creator>&#187; Word Challenge: Sorrow - Crazy Mokes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Mar 2006 14:41:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I would have to say, this is the one thing in my life right now that makes me want to cry. I know I&#8217;ve said how work is good for me right now, and when I went back, it was really out of financial necessity, and I may appear to be all gung-ho, &#8220;Working mothers UNITE! Together we can CONQUER THE UNIVERSE!&#8221; but I miss my kids. When I was talking to the lady at bunko about the costs of working vs. the costs of staying home, I was so sad, even in my defensiveness. I miss being the one to feed them their lunch, and send them to time-out for being a snot, to sit on the floor and play with their toys, to lay on my back and give them SUPER-GIRL!s and SUPER-BOY!s, to start getting Jocelyn potty trained, to tuck them in for naptimes, for kissing the boo-boos, for taking them outside all bundled up to play, to see them all day and have them drive me so crazy that I wish I was working.. I miss my kids. Not seeing them all day makes me so sad. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I would have to say, this is the one thing in my life right now that makes me want to cry. I know I&#8217;ve said how work is good for me right now, and when I went back, it was really out of financial necessity, and I may appear to be all gung-ho, &#8220;Working mothers UNITE! Together we can CONQUER THE UNIVERSE!&#8221; but I miss my kids. When I was talking to the lady at bunko about the costs of working vs. the costs of staying home, I was so sad, even in my defensiveness. I miss being the one to feed them their lunch, and send them to time-out for being a snot, to sit on the floor and play with their toys, to lay on my back and give them SUPER-GIRL!s and SUPER-BOY!s, to start getting Jocelyn potty trained, to tuck them in for naptimes, for kissing the boo-boos, for taking them outside all bundled up to play, to see them all day and have them drive me so crazy that I wish I was working.. I miss my kids. Not seeing them all day makes me so sad. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: raine</title>
		<link>http://www.crazymokes.com/2006/02/word-challenge-war-and-hate/comment-page-1/#comment-47</link>
		<dc:creator>raine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Feb 2006 20:52:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks - I really feel strongly about it. I would have to say, if I had to define my beliefs, that this blog post is it. Be happy. Don&#039;t make others be unhappy. Forever and ever, amen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks &#8211; I really feel strongly about it. I would have to say, if I had to define my beliefs, that this blog post is it. Be happy. Don&#8217;t make others be unhappy. Forever and ever, amen.</p>
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		<title>By: misty</title>
		<link>http://www.crazymokes.com/2006/02/word-challenge-war-and-hate/comment-page-1/#comment-46</link>
		<dc:creator>misty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Feb 2006 20:44:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i couldn&#039;t agree more with everything you said, and i don&#039;t say that to just be agreeable - i&#039;m always up for a good discussion. but it&#039;s so true. there&#039;s so many people ready and willing to jump all over people for what THEY think is right, without being willing or i even believe for some even able to give your shoes a chance.

i had a friend once who used to tell me i was going to &#039;end up working at mcdonalds when i was 60&#039; if i didn&#039;t start putting money away instead of &#039;blowing it&#039;. and what i blew it on? a NEW HOUSE which is oh, an investment, and i think a few things for the house - not even many because we were fairly house poor, a washer and dryer since they didn&#039;t convey. but because we were not putting every spare dime away from retirement i was made out to be, basically, a dumbass.

as long as it doesn&#039;t hurt anyone/isn&#039;t illegal, i&#039;m still not sure what other people are doing sticking their noses so far into others businesses. it&#039;s a wee bit scary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i couldn&#8217;t agree more with everything you said, and i don&#8217;t say that to just be agreeable &#8211; i&#8217;m always up for a good discussion. but it&#8217;s so true. there&#8217;s so many people ready and willing to jump all over people for what THEY think is right, without being willing or i even believe for some even able to give your shoes a chance.</p>
<p>i had a friend once who used to tell me i was going to &#8216;end up working at mcdonalds when i was 60&#8242; if i didn&#8217;t start putting money away instead of &#8216;blowing it&#8217;. and what i blew it on? a NEW HOUSE which is oh, an investment, and i think a few things for the house &#8211; not even many because we were fairly house poor, a washer and dryer since they didn&#8217;t convey. but because we were not putting every spare dime away from retirement i was made out to be, basically, a dumbass.</p>
<p>as long as it doesn&#8217;t hurt anyone/isn&#8217;t illegal, i&#8217;m still not sure what other people are doing sticking their noses so far into others businesses. it&#8217;s a wee bit scary.</p>
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		<title>By: Caitlin</title>
		<link>http://www.crazymokes.com/2006/02/word-challenge-war-and-hate/comment-page-1/#comment-45</link>
		<dc:creator>Caitlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Feb 2006 16:19:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I&#039;m counting the days until Paul is old enough to go to Mother&#039;s Day Out or something like that.  :) If Paul is at a point where I can actually get my homework done, I&#039;ll be starting this June.

I try to cut my family some slack, because I know it&#039;s been 20 years since my parents had young children in the house, and double that for my grandparents. I know I do a pretty decent job, but it&#039;s still hard to brush aside all the criticism when it&#039;s coming from people you happen to care about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I&#8217;m counting the days until Paul is old enough to go to Mother&#8217;s Day Out or something like that.  <img src='http://www.crazymokes.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  If Paul is at a point where I can actually get my homework done, I&#8217;ll be starting this June.</p>
<p>I try to cut my family some slack, because I know it&#8217;s been 20 years since my parents had young children in the house, and double that for my grandparents. I know I do a pretty decent job, but it&#8217;s still hard to brush aside all the criticism when it&#8217;s coming from people you happen to care about.</p>
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		<title>By: raine</title>
		<link>http://www.crazymokes.com/2006/02/word-challenge-war-and-hate/comment-page-1/#comment-44</link>
		<dc:creator>raine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Feb 2006 15:33:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t you just wish people would just chill the fuck out?? Seriously Caitlyn, I think going back to school would be a great idea - and I think you should totally do it if it will make you happy. If your family gives you grief, then I&#039;ve found that crying helps make them see how serious keeping hold of your sanity is :) Staying at home is so freaking hard, when Ethan started morning preschool 3x a week I almost cried with happiness - and that was still with baby Jocelyn at home! Getting out of the house sans baby is so important to your sanity, and if you feel like you can&#039;t connect with all the other SAHM&#039;s in your area, it is even harder. I always felt so inadequate, so unlike the other &quot;super-moms&quot;, although I *know* that a lot of that was just in my head. I wish I were still staying at home so we could hook up during the day, chica!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t you just wish people would just chill the fuck out?? Seriously Caitlyn, I think going back to school would be a great idea &#8211; and I think you should totally do it if it will make you happy. If your family gives you grief, then I&#8217;ve found that crying helps make them see how serious keeping hold of your sanity is <img src='http://www.crazymokes.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Staying at home is so freaking hard, when Ethan started morning preschool 3x a week I almost cried with happiness &#8211; and that was still with baby Jocelyn at home! Getting out of the house sans baby is so important to your sanity, and if you feel like you can&#8217;t connect with all the other SAHM&#8217;s in your area, it is even harder. I always felt so inadequate, so unlike the other &#8220;super-moms&#8221;, although I *know* that a lot of that was just in my head. I wish I were still staying at home so we could hook up during the day, chica!</p>
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		<title>By: Caitlin</title>
		<link>http://www.crazymokes.com/2006/02/word-challenge-war-and-hate/comment-page-1/#comment-43</link>
		<dc:creator>Caitlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Feb 2006 15:10:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You don&#039;t know how much I appreciate your stance on breast milk vs formula. Seems there&#039;s not much middle ground there these days. At a sahm support group I went to once, I was made to feel like the world&#039;s worst mom ever because I fed my son a bottle. Since I was a stay at home mom, that made me doubly bad and lazy to boot. Not once did anyone ever stop to consider that formula is -not- the only thing that can go in bottles. I pumped for 3 months, until my supply gave out because Paul couldn&#039;t nurse. Yet because I used a bottle, I am a bad and lazy mama.

As for the work vs stay at home, I think it&#039;s sad how it&#039;s always the mom who is bad for going back to work. We applaud the fathers for supporting their family, and if they&#039;re a stay at home father, then they&#039;re almost god like for &quot;sacrificing&quot; their career. But us? Leaving a job we enjoyed is expected.

I saw an interesting article awhile back about the cost of the mother going back to work. The upshoot was that if you have a couple making $60k a year, you take daycare costs out of that, not the woman&#039;s $15k salary alone. People tend to put a negative value on stay at home moms. Since you don&#039;t actually get salary, you should feel guilty for occasionally doing something nice for yourself, like getting new shoes when your old ones bite the dust.

I also think that stay at home vs working isn&#039;t always about the money. Some women just aren&#039;t cut out to be stay at home moms. It makes me miserable, because when I look back at the last year, I can&#039;t really point to any accomplishments the way I used to. Wrong or right, that&#039;s something that is important to me and I just can&#039;t dismiss it. I&#039;m not one of those internet supermamas, who some how manage to get all their projects done, keep a overachiever baby, and the house sparkling clean and blog about it. My projects always lose out because I&#039;m too tired after keeping with Paul, and keeping the house sorta clean to do anything else.

We&#039;re on the opposite side of needing to go back to work, so if I mention I want to go back to school, which would involve Paul being in daycare for less than 10 hours a week, my family reacts as if I have just said - &quot;Oh, got a new job, gonna be working 100 hours a week, and screw daycare, Paul can play in the beltway until Clayton gets off work&quot;.  Ever since I made the mistake of mentioning what I thought was a good thing, I&#039;ve been subjected to constant guilt trips.

I am just very tired of this war against mothers who don&#039;t fit the breastfeeding stay at home domestic goddess profile. We&#039;re not bad women, just human like everyone else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You don&#8217;t know how much I appreciate your stance on breast milk vs formula. Seems there&#8217;s not much middle ground there these days. At a sahm support group I went to once, I was made to feel like the world&#8217;s worst mom ever because I fed my son a bottle. Since I was a stay at home mom, that made me doubly bad and lazy to boot. Not once did anyone ever stop to consider that formula is -not- the only thing that can go in bottles. I pumped for 3 months, until my supply gave out because Paul couldn&#8217;t nurse. Yet because I used a bottle, I am a bad and lazy mama.</p>
<p>As for the work vs stay at home, I think it&#8217;s sad how it&#8217;s always the mom who is bad for going back to work. We applaud the fathers for supporting their family, and if they&#8217;re a stay at home father, then they&#8217;re almost god like for &#8220;sacrificing&#8221; their career. But us? Leaving a job we enjoyed is expected.</p>
<p>I saw an interesting article awhile back about the cost of the mother going back to work. The upshoot was that if you have a couple making $60k a year, you take daycare costs out of that, not the woman&#8217;s $15k salary alone. People tend to put a negative value on stay at home moms. Since you don&#8217;t actually get salary, you should feel guilty for occasionally doing something nice for yourself, like getting new shoes when your old ones bite the dust.</p>
<p>I also think that stay at home vs working isn&#8217;t always about the money. Some women just aren&#8217;t cut out to be stay at home moms. It makes me miserable, because when I look back at the last year, I can&#8217;t really point to any accomplishments the way I used to. Wrong or right, that&#8217;s something that is important to me and I just can&#8217;t dismiss it. I&#8217;m not one of those internet supermamas, who some how manage to get all their projects done, keep a overachiever baby, and the house sparkling clean and blog about it. My projects always lose out because I&#8217;m too tired after keeping with Paul, and keeping the house sorta clean to do anything else.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re on the opposite side of needing to go back to work, so if I mention I want to go back to school, which would involve Paul being in daycare for less than 10 hours a week, my family reacts as if I have just said &#8211; &#8220;Oh, got a new job, gonna be working 100 hours a week, and screw daycare, Paul can play in the beltway until Clayton gets off work&#8221;.  Ever since I made the mistake of mentioning what I thought was a good thing, I&#8217;ve been subjected to constant guilt trips.</p>
<p>I am just very tired of this war against mothers who don&#8217;t fit the breastfeeding stay at home domestic goddess profile. We&#8217;re not bad women, just human like everyone else.</p>
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		<title>By: raine</title>
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		<dc:creator>raine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Feb 2006 14:05:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aw thanks, chica :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aw thanks, chica <img src='http://www.crazymokes.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Tamara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tamara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Feb 2006 13:56:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I bow down before you. What an AWESOME entry. I Loved it. Good work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I bow down before you. What an AWESOME entry. I Loved it. Good work.</p>
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